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Welcome to the release of the second episode of the Wild Orgasmic Wisdom Podcast, where I had the honor of interviewing one of my long-time teachers and role models, Marianne Costa. I’m excited to bring you this interview in English, which is a rare treat for English-speaking students of the tarot, as Marianne currently teaches mostly in French and Spanish (though is fluent in a number of languages).

You can listen to the podcast here.

In this podcast, Marianne speaks about the origins of tarot, tarot as a game, tarot as a playmate, tarot as a field of energy, and tarot as a teacher of life and death. We also take a deep look into Marianne’s a new book, “Le Tarot Pas a Pas” (which translates to “Tarot Step by Step”), available only in French at this time.  

I first met Marianne at one of her tarot workshops with Alejandro Jodorowsky when I was 22 years old. I had been interested in tarot since I was a teenager, however, this was my first meeting as well with the Le Tarot de Marseille. She was, at that time, wife to Jodorowsky, and to me they were like the Divine Mother and Father of the Tarot de Marseille. They would eventually co-author “The Way of the Tarot” (available in English) in 2009.

I became deeply interested in the depth of the psychospiritual work they did both with tarot and psychogeneology, and a few years later attended a psychogeneology weekend workshop led by Marianne in the Bay Area. This was long before I would eventually find myself moving to France (I could say, for unrelated reasons, though by now I know that everything is related).

Mariane and I kept up occasionally over the years, and when I finally ended up moving to France, I realized happily that this meant I could now attend Marianne’s tarot workshops in Paris on occasion. If you have the opportunity to attend one of Marianne’s workshops, I would highly recommend attending. Marianne’s knowledge and transmission are both quite formidable.

I’m ecstatic to present to you this deep dive into symbols of the human psyche, the rebirth of the tarot, the impact of living in a “pornographic society”, and how to understand the wild orgasmic wisdom of the tarot.

Listen to the podcast here.

Or watch on YouTube here.

I hope you enjoy this podcast as much as we enjoyed making it! If you feel called to support this or future WOW podcasts, please consider making a one-time or monthly donation. Thank you and see you soon!